Seen here is a boxed wing that always loops on launch even with the battery on the nose. Seems like a thrust angle issue. I do not want to angle the motors. I prefer to lower them or put on top of wing. Any idea if the motors should go lower or should go above wing for level flight? [img]blob:https://www.wattflyer.com/2ffb19ef-5496-41b8-ad0b-96ddb5a51885[/img]